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« Reply #100 on: September 19, 2014, 12:17 pm »

When Quebec's independance vote lost in 1995, the premier at the time blamed "money and the ethnic vote," so good on Salmond for not doing that
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« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2014, 12:48 pm »


I gained a lot of respect for Salmond over the past year, it must be said.
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« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2014, 12:49 pm »

Oh, and avoid George Square right now if you're not white.
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« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2014, 12:58 pm »

I don't know how many non-white Glaswegians read Dragon Mountain, it must be dozens
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« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2014, 01:38 pm »

Livestream of the No victory bash

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86lrybeUXIg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86lrybeUXIg</a>
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« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2014, 01:49 pm »

PS fuck you Jimbob

If I had lived all my life in Scotland I would have voted Yes like a shot, purely to get a socialist government. But I'm British, I care about people in England and Wales too.

I was hoping Salmond was going to stay on to make sure that Westminster delivered on their campaign promises. Now i'm fairly worried about the West Lothian shit, I just donated to the Labour party for the first time ever.

PS. my vote was fraudulent, i live in London at the moment :P
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« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2014, 01:59 pm »


PS fuck you Jimbob
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I just donated to the Labour party for the first time ever.

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« Reply #107 on: September 20, 2014, 04:25 am »

I was speaking to a No voter at work yesterday, his rationale was that it's too early for independence and that it will come eventually.

When I explained to him that there was no provision for another referendum and that Westminster were highly unlikely to permit one for at least the next 25 years (by which time there will be nothing left of the social infrastructure) he went chalk-white with horror.

Nice job doing your research you fucking dolts.
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« Reply #108 on: September 20, 2014, 09:01 am »

Irvine Welsh is looking for the silver lining.
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« Reply #109 on: September 20, 2014, 10:27 am »

Spent most of today playing whack-a-mole with conspiracy theorists

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« Reply #110 on: September 21, 2014, 01:41 pm »

Alex Salmond talking to Sky news with some post-match analysis.
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« Reply #111 on: September 21, 2014, 04:30 pm »

Maybe suggesting that 2 million people are gullible idiots isn't a great way to get them onside.

But what about the ones who weren't tricked? Who made a weighted and informed decision based on selfishness and evil?
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« Reply #112 on: September 21, 2014, 06:35 pm »

Back in the days of Sparta, they needed five (one had to take the photo)



By the time of William Wallace, one was enough (at this juncture, the Leper's son was known as Robert the Photorealistic Portraitist, photography having become a lost art temporarily)



By god, what do we have now, a leprous brain attached to a supercomputer?

Though in answer to your first comment, I guess time will tell whether punters end up feeling that Salmond kicked over a wasp's nest that should have been left well alone or that he was justified in whipping off the lace doily that had been tastefully draped over the elephant in the room.

And seeing as I invoked some Braveheart shite, it's only fair to link Stewart Lee's amazing bit on Mel Gibson's historical shenanigans.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHA1ufmLZQY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHA1ufmLZQY</a>
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« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2014, 02:30 am »

Funny that this whole stramash started with Salmond asking for home rule and Cameron refusing to put it on the ballot, forcing an independence referendum or nothing.

Three years later Cameron came up in person to beg Scotland to accept that same home rule as a consolation prize.

Who is the real winner?
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« Reply #114 on: September 22, 2014, 04:18 am »

Big Democracy?
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« Reply #115 on: September 22, 2014, 11:50 am »

No, the real winner is that vile yuppie arsewipe who bet 600,000 on a No win
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« Reply #116 on: September 22, 2014, 06:55 pm »

This is anecdotal so may not belong here, but it is a report from the ground-level so may be of interest.

When it was down to four of us after the pub quiz, it was 2 yes voters and 2 no. The two yes: me (half American half Scottish, expat, to boarding, then living in Scotland from age 10), the Siberian (though he grew up in Stornoway from age 12). The two no: North Yorkshire (doing her Phd thesis on A.L. Kennedy, Scottish writer and "yes" voter) and French (but grew up in anglophone Canada and having completed her thesis in scientific methodology/accountability/something).

Once again French/Canadian (but not French-Canadian) started up with how sick she was of the debate, and yet continued to draw conversation back to it every fucking 5 minutes. North Yorkshire, even having voted the same way, quietly excused herself not too long after the quiz ended.

After leaving the pub, France had a quick chunder outside, Siberia left and I saw France to her door safely. I then texted Yorkshire to comment on how France wouldn't stop harping on about a subject she'd declared herself sick of. Yorkshire responded saying she felt it was best to leave rather than to shout (her words, verbatim) "will you please just SHUT THE FUCK UP". I said it would have been fine in a Leith pub.

So, really, in the grander scheme of things it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but now those outside of the situation can see that even a previously mostly harmonious pub quiz team has some deep divisions now due to the debate. Are we better together, yes or no?

Thus ends the socio-political vignette.
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« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2014, 02:03 am »

The answer of course is fucking no



ha ha ha ha ha we're all fuuuuuucked

(the extra 1600 is to offset the distribution costs over large rural areas and still falls way short of what we contribute via tax receipts)
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« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2014, 02:34 am »

Every time i see a picture of Cameron giving a speech in the papers these days i seem to have to get my pen out.

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« Reply #119 on: September 23, 2014, 03:27 pm »

Me too!

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